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. he couldn't defend his record. >> shannon: he continuously talked about a plan that governor romney has that would in their estimation, lead to a $5 trillion deficit, they are citing outside besides for that number. and romney says it will be compensated for by loopholes. how he will justify the cuts? where will those revenue sources be made up? >> even stephanie cutter admitted it is not a $5 trillion tax cut. we have a 20% tax cut across the board, no matter what income level you fall into. but for those people at the higher levels of income, what governor rom no is proposing is closing loopholes and dedux for those individuals that will ultimately make the entire budget revenue neutral. >> shannon: when will we find out what they are? >> when a budget is put together, when the budget committee puts forward a budget, they don't put forward a budget with every loophole and deduction and every single -- they have a couple of numbers, they say here's the top number, here's the bottom number. you go to the ways & means committee and i sit down with a burch of people and i figur
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enjoyed it. i was talking about florida a moment ago and the "miami herald" poll shows romney with a seven-point lead. but in ohio, this is interesting, the president had a substantial lead there. now look at it, in the margin of error. about only line, florida, north carolina, lesser extent, virginia, are all going for governor romney. governor romney can win those states and the president will be re-elected if he holds ohio. ohio now is the key if the race freezes. >>gregg: and the real clear politics electoral map, this is what really counts you have to win the state and win the electoral votes. talk to us about this. >>pat: what is happening, look at yellow, ladies and gentleman. we see, now, that wisconsin, michigan, which everyone thought was in solid for obama is now undecided, so is pennsylvania. maine has moved to leaning. wisconsin is a battleground state. shear my theory. we are seeing faster movement in states that had no add veer tieing and have been left aside. that means the problem with ohio could be this $49 million spent by obama. and how early the obama ground orga
we talked about, florida and ohio, romney has to win both to win and the president can lose one of them and still win is. >> shannon: always a treat to visit with both of you. thank you, gentlemen. >> you're welcome, shannon. >> something most of us fear, standing in line having to ask the government for help. but for more and more americans it has become the norm. >> no jobs around? have you looked for a job? >> i can't look right now because i'm on disability. >> nothing out there. nothing. >> there are no jobs. >> no. >> shannon: is there an alternative to america's welfare state. john stossel investigates. and he joins us live, next. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech mastpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help
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